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Posted 2/5/2008 3:05:48 PM


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Hi all,

I adopted a pair of 6 year old ferrets last summer - Fozzy & Faylene. Fozzy is a champagne hob and Faylene a sable jill. Both marshall's ferrets. They'd been rehomed a couple times and lived for several years with the folks I got them from. They were raised in a time when it was thought O.K. to feed ferrets cheap kibble and cat foods.

I am a huge proponent of natural prey/raw diets but a lifetime of eating hi carbs and grain based kibbles took its toll.

I thought I was going to lose Fozzy a few weeks back when his breathing became so shallow and erratic it was as if he was gasping his last breathes. He laid sprawled on my chest a pathetic flattened bedraggled limp whisper of himself. A pool of saliva dampening my T-shirt. I thought at first it was his heart giving out.

He eventually rallied a bit and the next few days regained some strength and was eating and behaving normally. Only to go through another episode, and then begin staggering.

A trip to the vet's revealed a blood glucose of 39.6! Our last follow up BG test showed he was now excessively HIGH with a BG of 465! SO he is now on 12 hour doses of Prednisolone (5mg/5ml at 40ml per dose). I'll be scheduling another BG test to see if he has levelled out.

So far outwardly he is more normal and even played in a tunnel with me today! Because the younger Bugsy keeps trying to drag Fozzy off to stash him somewhere, I have to put Fozzy in a "hospital cage" when I am not home. Because I don't want him to feel segregated that means Faylene has to stay with him. She does NOT like being shut in the cage, but is adjusting and tolerating it.

When I adopted them last summer, they were totally thrilled with being able to have free roam 24/7. I know they used to be caged all the time with occassional out times, so this may be a bit confusing to them, or reminding them of being shut in all the time.

So far they only get shut in for 9 hours when I work my night shift. I get them out as soon as I get home and as long as I am here - Bugsy(like a clever little brat) will leave Fozzy alone. But if he is up and I say, go to put clothes in the wash- I'll come back and catch Bugsy dragging poor Fozzy off by his ear!

I realized when I adopted the F&F team that they were already on borrowed time. My hope has been to offer them a bit more time by giving them a better, higher protein diet. Faylene enjoys the meaty program,and Fozzy will readily dispatch a mouse and gnaw on it - but only occassionally will he actually EAT it - or just parts of it. He is too entrenched in the kibble.

Seeing what he is going through has redoubled my resolve to get the entire business switched to all natural/whole prey. In the meantime I am offering them several types of the highest quality/ highest protein/ low carb foods I can get:

Totally ferret Turkey,Venison,Lamb

Totally ferret Baby Food

Innova Evo Ferret Food

I am phasing out the:

Shepherd Greene Adult (too much corn)

Eight in One Ultimate Soft Moist (Too much corn as well as glucose)

Please folks, make every effort to offer your ferrets the diet that mother nature intended them to eat! And realize that the catch phrase on ferret foods being "nutritionally complete" is an out and out LIE! There are NO KNOWN scientifically based studies or facts to PROVE what is nutritionally required by ferrets! However they hale from a line of small predatory carnivores that eat rodents, small birds, eggs, insects, reptiles and amphibians- NO corn, veggies,fruits or sugars!

I can't begin to describe the ache in my gut every time I have to severely scruff my beloved Fozzy and force him to take this medicine twice a day when it could have been totally avoided - had his system not had to try and digest years and years of foreign substances!

Insulinoma is NON curable! The symptoms can ONLY be managed via meds, and even surgery isn't a cure. Fozzy may get 2 more weeks - he may get two more years - but he's NEVER going to get better. For now he is holding his own.

Regards, Kim

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Posted 2/6/2008 5:24:03 PM


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Hi Josiesmom,

I'm sorry to hear about your ferret Fozzy. My ferret Tinsel also had Insulinoma. She was diagnosed when she was 4 and lived on Prednisone for 2 years. We chose not to do surgery because insulinoma isn't curable anyway, and we didn't want to lose her to surgical complications like one of our ferrets in the past. We controlled her seizures with corn syrup rubbed on her gums and she often would drink some corn syrup diluted in a cup of water, just enough to bring her sugar up and get her to eat/come out of her spacey state. She took the pill form of medication, but near the end she stopped taking it, we tried many different flavors of the liquid form with no luck. If you haven't had a ferret with insulinoma before, it is a very emotionally heart breaking and time consuming illness to deal with. The last few weeks of Tinsel's life I practically had her with me everywhere just so she wasn't alone. I am happy I got 2 more years with her and for the most part she was a normal, happy ferret with her lows being when she refused her medication. I hope Fozzy is doing well, Good Luck.

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Posted 9/12/2008 7:28:13 AM
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Am glad to see you are feeding the Evo diet.  Evo has no grains.  Grains are a definite no-no for ferrets.  Grains are carbs.  Carbs are not what you want to be feeding your ferrets.  Absolutely no corn or corn products should be feed to a ferret. Glutens are the worst form of grains.  Evo cat may also be fed to a ferret.  The ingredients are essentially the same.  Only difference is the ferret food has more potatoes which can cause diahhrea.  Evo also has a 95% meat canned cat food available.  This is good if you need a high protein meal after an insulinoma attack.  Just mix with water until you have the desired consistancy and feed with a syringe.  Be careful you feed slowly with a syringe to prevent getting any food/water in the lungs.  Keep us updated.  God bless your warm fuzzies!
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Posted 9/13/2008 5:28:03 AM
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Hi I am glad Fozzy is doing good. My little Floyd has had inuslinoma for about a year now. He is on the pred and diazoxide. He was free of attacks for quite some time but recently they switched where the pred came from and he has been pretty bad about taking it (He didnt like it anyway). Since he has not been taking the pred the way he used to he starting having attacks again. Luckilly we have cought him just after they would start and give him a little of the ferret vite and this would start to kick in after a few minutes. I think this is better than the kero bc it has the vitamins and nutrients that ferrets need and they love it. My vet told us that you can give them the syrup, it just seems he like the vite better. We just switched him back to his normal pred and I hope that this starts to work for him. The doctor recently started talking about the surgery. He told us it will not cure him, however he can remove the bulk of the tumors and go back down to a lower dose. (Now he is .6 pred and .3 diaz.) I was dead set against the surgery for a while bc I did not want to put my little baby thru that, but I hear it is actually not that bad. I was just wondering if you or anyone else who is reading this has considered it. Floyd is only about 7 years old and in otherwise healthy condition.
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